Letter from Lorance to PF, [Algiers]
Algiers
Ransom
Slaves (Christian)
Letter from Lorance, vicar apostolic, to PF. Lorance wants to express his gratitude and consolation that was within the letter sent by PF on 12 December last year. This should have ended the problems with the Trinitarians and the English consul, however this is unfortunately not the case. When the discalzed Trinitarians arrived on 21 March, they publicly announced in the presence of the divan that it was false, and made up by Lorance. They also stated that they had never heard of Cardinal Altieri [Paluzio Altieri, the PF prefect], PF, Father Ferdinando d'Alva, the pope, or the vicar; they had only heard of Divan d'Algery. This led to the rejection of his request by the Dey, to detain money from the alms to pay for the debts of Sig'r Gianola [Giuseppa Giannola?]. At least 4,000 piastre are in the hands of the Trinitarians, but are meant for this purpose. The Trinitarians and the English consul gave gifts to the Dey, for which they now receive help in return. The Trinitarians also have Trinitarians passports, and the money was actually meant for the ransoming of slaves. PF still allows the collected alms to be used to pay for the debts of Giannola. Lorance wants PF to give him a letter that will protect him against the Divan, and he wants the Trinitarians to pay the 4,000 piastre. It is also important that PF confirms the authority of the vicar over the Trintarians; the discalzed Trinitarians staying in Algiers claim that they can errect altars in the houses they are staying in, celebrate mass, confess, and do all the functions independently from the vicar and bishop, in every part of Christendom. Dominico Lassari (the nephew of the pope), has finally been ransomed for 800 piastre da otto reali; 260 had been paid by bis brother and the pope, 30 by the Discalzed Trinitarians, and the rest 200 scudi came from the alms of the Trinitarians. He has included a letter by the same Lassari.
Additional comments
Lorence
APF SC Barbaria 1, 124r-125r
no date
[Adressed to PF]
original; signed
Italian
Letter
877
Origin: [Algiers]
Destination: Rome
Letter from Lorance to PF, [Algiers]
Algiers
Ransom
Slaves (Christian)
Trinitarians
Letter from Lorence, vicar apostolic, to PF. Last September Lorence sent two priests away. One of them is member of the Trinitarian order, and is named Gioan Antonio Vello. He had been the administrator of the hospital for nine years. At the end of his time, he had aquired a debt of 40,000 otto reali, though there were not any specific reasons for such spending; the only reason seems to be that he was involved in commerce. In Spain there is a priest of the same order, who paid a big part of the debts of Vello, through his fortune aquired in the wool industry. After this, Vello was sent to Spain. He later returned to Algiers were he organized great banquets for his friends, which caused a big scandal. The other priest is a certain Giovanni di Santa Maria, a Minor Observant. He once released 38 Portuguese, five of whom died, and the others left together with Giovanni to Livorno, on 23 November of this year. This all happened thanks to the king of Portugal who gave Lorence and the English consul 12,968 pezze da otto. Giovanni had debts for around 3,000, but they paid some creditors so that he and the freed slaves could leave. However, both Giovanni and Vello lived scandalous lives, and tried to take possessions from the slaves. Lorence asks PF to impede their return, and to write to the king of Portugal. There are still 11 Algerian vessels that raid other ships, and most raids happen on the oceans, and not in the Mediterranean.
Additional comments
Lorence
APF SC Barbaria 1, 71r-72v
no date
[Adressed to PF]
original; signed
Italian
Letter
876
Origin: [Algiers]
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Bernardino Spada, 1627-01-23, Rome
Cardinal rings
Letter from PF to Cardinal Spada, letting him know about the decision taken in the general congregation held on the 15 January 1627, which instructs him to convince the archbishop of Paris to have the heirs of the late Cardinal de Retz pay the fee for the cardinal ring. The letter suggests that Cardinal Spada mention the names of Cardinals de Sourdis, "Ricoglieu" and "Marimont," who have paid their dues, as examples to be followed. The second part of the letter deals with Gabriel Sionita.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 6, 3v-4r
1627-01-23
Addressed to Bernardino Spada
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
33
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from the nuncio to France [Bernardino Spada] to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1627-02-02, Paris
Cardinal rings
Cardinal Spada informs PF that the archbishop of Paris is heir (but not beneficiary) of the late Cardinal de Retz, and that he could perhaps be "lured" to pay the fee for his late brother's cardinal ring (which had not been paid) by way of a brief from the pope, which would do him honor, especially since he (the archbishop) seems well disposed toward "Rome." The note on the back indicates that PF did not deem a brief appropriate, but instead charged Cardinal Bentivoglio to send the archbishop a letter to this effect, and entreated Cardinal Spada to also work himself on convincing the archbishop, considering that he (Cardinal Spada) had had great success in convincing another French cardinal to pay the fee for his ring (i.e. Cardinal de Sourdis). Cardinal Spada was also asked to remind Cardinal de La Valette to honor his promise to pay his fee as well, if he wants to please PF, following the example of other French cardinals who paid their own. The second part of the letter/note refers to Gabriel Sionita's planned travel to Rome and request for supporting funds (granted by PF only to a max. of 100 scudi).
Date discussed 1627-03-08
Additional comments
a) Cardinal Spada was leaving the French nunciature that year. b) Other cardinals who had not paid for their rings according to the "constitution" of Pope Gregory XV are mentioned in other documents, together with the nuncio's efforts to extract the money. See for instance "Cardinale della Cueua" in SOCG 129, f. 3-3v/note6v (letter by the nuncio from Paris, 15 April 1627). Josef Metzler discusses the matter in "Foundation of the Congregation 'de Propaganda Fide' by Gregory XV," in J. Metzler, ed., Sacrae Congregationis de Propaganda Fide Memoria Rerum, vol. I/1 (Herder: Rome, Freiburg, Vienna, 1972), 79-111, here 99-100. Metzler notes that "most of the Italian Cardinals were prompt in making their offering" but that there were difficulties with the French. Metzler mentions that Cardinal Richelieu and Cardinal de Sourdis eventually paid at the end of 1624, and de Sourdis even paid double, i.e. 1,000 scudi. For these cases, Metzler cites APF Lettere vol. 2 (1622-1623), f. 29v, 49r, and 64r-v. NB: The "constitution" of Gregory XV (1622) established that the fees traditionally paid by the heirs of the deceased cardinals for their cardinal rings be turned over to PF; a later decision by PF (same year) stated that current cardinals should feel free to make their payment in advance in order to support PF; and that, in the future, newly created cardinals would have to pay their fee to the PF on the day they were appointed (Metzler cites APF Acta vol. 3 (1622-1625) f. 5v-6r).
Bernardino Spada
APF SOCG 129, 2r, 7v
1627-02-02
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
For the minutes of the PF meeting where this matter was discussed, see: APF ACTA 4, 219 (database item 43).
Original; signed; Italian note on 7v in Italian and Latin.
Italian
Latin
Letter
1
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Bernardino Spada, 1627-03-13, Rome
Cardinal rings
Letter from PF to Cardinal Spada, letting him know that the cardinals of PF do not think it is a good idea that the pope write a letter to the archbishop of Paris asking him to pay the cardinal ring fee. Instead, PF asks Cardinal Bentivogli to write the archbishop an "effective" letter, hoping that it would produce the desired results, together with the efforts of Cardinal Spada himself, especially considering the success that he [Cardinal Spada] had had with Cardinal de Sourdis on a similar matter. PF also asks Cardinal Spada to remind Cardinal de La Valette about his promise to pay for his own cardinal ring, and about the fact that many other French cardinals have already paid their dues. The second part of letter refers to Gabriel Sionita.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 6, 34v-35r
1627-03-13
Addressed to Bernardino Spada
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
34
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from Bernardino Spada to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1627-05-10, Paris
Cardinal rings
Cardinal Spada informs PF that his efforts with the archbishop of Paris (regarding the cardinal ring fee issue) had the same effect as those of the former nuncio to France, Cardinal Bentivoglio. Spada says that details about the latter are attached, but the attached file does not directly follow the document (see Additional Comments). The rest of the letter deals with Gabriel Sionita's travel to Rome.
Additional comments
a) Cardinal Spada was leaving the French nunciature that year; b) the attached "details" are probably SOCG 129, f. 41r, 46v (database item 3).
[Bernardino Spada]
APF SOCG 129, 10r, 16v
1627-05-10
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
For the minutes of the PF meeting where this matter was discussed, see: APF ACTA 4 214r, 219r (database item 43).
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
2
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1627-05-28, Rome
Cardinal rings
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, letting him know about the response of the archbishop of Paris to Cardinal Bentivoglio (attached on a separate paper and filed not in this volume, but in the SOCG collection), regarding the cardinal ring fee issue. PF, in the presence of the pope, decided to write the following to the nuncio: a) that the archbishop's argument that the late Cardinal de Retz was not supposed to pay the cardinal ring fee is not valid, because Cardinals Gusman of Spain and Richelieu of France paid it, even though they had not received the capello (the cardinal hat); b) the nuncio should try to see if the ring fee could be obtained from the owners of the late Cardinal de Retz's property, since the archbishop and the other relatives are excusing themselves by saying that they are not his heirs. Prehaps in this manner, they would have decide to pay it.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 6, 70v
1627-05-28
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
35
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1627-06-11, Rome
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, enclosing a decree regarding CM (the text of the decree itself was not filed in this volume) and asking for more information on Vincent de Paul's congregation, as detailed in the decree.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 6, 82r
Published in full and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 236-237 (no notable discrepancies between the document and Coppo's transcript). English translation in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: Correspondence, Conferences, Documents (Brooklyn, NY: 1985-2010), vol. 13a, doc. 63a.
1627-06-11
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
36
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from the nuncio to France [Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno] to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1627-07-16, Paris
Cardinal rings
The new nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, lets PF know that the solution suggested by PF in a letter from 20 May 1627, namely to collect the fee for the ring of late Cardinal de Retz via litigation with the owners of his goods, would be too difficult and costly. Instead, he tried to convince the archbishop of Paris to pay the fee out of "liberality" and for the sake of the pope and PF. The archbishop promissed to do so, but with a delay of "several months." The nuncio accepted the promise without rushing the archbishop to fulfill it by the time of the following PF general meeting; the nuncio is going to follow up with the archbishop in order to make sure that he pays the fee.
Date discussed 1627-08-13
Additional comments
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 129, 21r-v, 28v
1627-07-16
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
APF SOCG 129 & APF SOCG 130 passim
For the minutes of the PF meeting where this matter was discussed, see: APF ACTA 4, 219 (database item 43).
Original; signed; Italian note in Italian and Latin.
Italian
Latin
Letter
4
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from François Veron to the PF secretary [Francesco Ingoli], 1627-08-26, Paris
Other secular missionaries
France (missions in)
François Veron's reply to PF's response regarding his proposal to establish a Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith in France; he also wants to send a book he wrote on the method of disputing against heretics.
Additional comments
The PF note on 82v indicates that a reply was sent on 19 September 1627.
François Veron
APF SOCG 129, 79r-v, 82v
1627-08-26
Addressed to [Francesco Ingoli]
Original; signed; Latin
Latin
Letter
5
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1627-09-26, Paris
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, recommending CM in support of its first 1628 petition for approval by PF.
Date discussed 1627-11-05
Additional comments
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 198, 115r, 122v
Published and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' in Annali della Missione 80:1 (1973): 222-255, here 248-255. Coppos' transcription of the main text is faithful to the original, with some words modernized. For discrepancies between the original text of the notes on 122v and Coppo's transcription, see attached file.
1627-09-26
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
22
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1627-11-13, Rome
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, asking him to let Vincent de Paul know that PF approved his mission.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 6, 172r-v
Published in full and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 222-255, here 242-245 (no notable discrepancies between the document and Coppo's transcript). English translation in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: Correspondence, Conferences, Documents (Brooklyn, NY:1985-2010), vol. 13a, doc. 65c.
1627-11-13
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
37
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from Philippe-Emmanuel de Gondi to Bernardino Spada [1627]
Galleys
Capuchins
France (missions in)
Galleys
The general of the triremes (Philippe-Emmanuel de Gondi) asks Cardinal Spada to obtain a brief from the pope ordering the superior of the Capuchins of Provence to send thirteen priests "to instruct, hear confessions and teach the catechism to the captains, soldiers and sailors of said triremes," in Tollon as well as in other places where the triremes would go. The Fathers have been doing their mission on the triremes for one or two years already and they say they cannot continue to do so without a brief. The PF notes on f. 140v indicate that Ingoli was going to discuss the matter with Barberini, and that there was a negative response to the request, given in June 1627.
Date discussed 1627-02-20 and 1627-06-08
Additional comments
a) Cardinal Spada was leaving the French nunciature that year, and was therefore probably somewhere in France, possibly Paris, at the beginning of 1672.
b) Petition discussed twice by PF.
Philippe-Emmanuel de Gondi
APF SOCG 129, 140r-141r
[1627]
Addressed to Bernardino Spada
See for the pope's rejection of the request: APF ACTA 4, 208, 237 (database item 45)
For the approval: APF ACTA 17, 164 (not in this database).
See also similar request in APF SOCG 387, 142r, 148v (database item 28).
Original; undated; no signature; French on 140r (followed by Italian translation on 141r); verso of folio 140 contains PF notes in Latin and Italian; 141v has following note: "Avignon".
French
Italian
Latin
Letter
6
Origin: [France]
Destination: [France]
Letter from Jean-François de Gondi to the nuncio to France, Guido Bentivoglio d'Aragona [1627], Paris
Cardinal rings
Copy of a letter fragment from the archbishop of Paris to Cardinal Bentivoglio regarding the cardinal ring fee, in which the archbishop explains that it is not his responsibility to pay it.
Date discussed 1627-05-21
Additional comments
a) The document was written between the dates of database items 1 and 2; based on its content, it was most likely written between April-May 1627; b) this is possibly the missing attached file to SOCG 129, 10r,16v (database item 2); c) Cardinal Bentivoglio was nuncio to France in 1616-1621; and d) elsewhere it is suggested that Bentivoglio was in Rome at the time. See: APF SOCG 129, 10r, 16v (database item 2).
Jean-François de Gondi
APF SOCG 129, 41r, 46v
[1627]
Addressed to Guido Bentivoglio d'Aragona
APF SOCG 129 & APF SOCG 130 passim;
For the minutes of the PF meeting where this matter was discussed, see: APF ACTA 4, 219 (database item 43).
Contemp. copy; Italian
Italian
Letter
3
Origin: Paris
Destination: [Rome]
Letter from François Veron to the PF secretary Francesco Ingoli], 1628-03-04, Paris
Other secular missionaries
France (missions in)
Letters from François Veron relating news on heretics in France and requesting the support of PF for his congregation. The note indicates that PF was going to advise Veron to start by approaching the nuncio for support, and that the nuncio's approval of his person and activities were instrumental in the matter.
Additional comments
[François Veron]
APF SOCG 131, 56r-63v
1628-03-04
Addressed to [Francesco Ingoli]
Originals; signed; Latin and French; PF notes in Italian
Latin
French
Letter
20
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from the nuncio to France [Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno] to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1628-05-26, Paris
Cardinal rings
The nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, writes to Cardinal Ludovisi about various matters; among which is the "cardinalizio" (cardinal ring fee) of Cardinal de Retz, which the archbishop of Paris had promised to pay the previous summer. The nuncio says that all he has received so far were kind words, but that he will do everything possible to obtain "facts."
Additional comments
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 34r, 35v
1628-05-26
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
7
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from the nuncio to France [Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno] to the PF prefect [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1628-06-21, Chives
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to Cardinal Ludovisi accompanying the first CM petition asking for approval of the congregation by PF in 1628. The nuncio strongly recommends the CM missionaries and their "Institute." The first part of the letter refers to other matters (i.e. Protestants being tolerated too much in Poschiavo and in Lower Engadine by Monsieur de Mesmin).
Date discussed 1628-08-22
Additional comments
The letter was written "di Chius nel Campo sotto la Roccella" (Chives, the army camp below La Rochelle, during the siege of that city).
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 44r-45v
Part of letter relevant to CM published in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: correspondance, entretiens, documents (Paris: 1920-25), vol. 13, doc. 67. The English translation (available in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: Correspondence, Conferences, Documents (Brooklyn, NY: 1985-2010), vol. 13a, doc. 67.) is not based on Coste's initial transcription but on the text published and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. "De Propaganda Fide,"' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 42-44 (because Coste's version has a few discrepancies from the original). Coppo's text is faithful to the original with two exceptions: a) it gives "Poschiano" instead of "Poschiauo" (Poschiavo) in the first paragraph of the letter (not related to CM); and b) the ommission of one redundant word. Place names are modernized both in Coste (English edition) and in Coppo.
1628-06-21
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
Original letter, signed, Italian
Italian
Letter
9
Origin: Chives
Destination: Rome
Letter from the nunico to France [Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno] to the PF secretary [Francesco Ingoli], 1628-07-23, Chives
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, accompanying two letters from King Louis XIII recommending CM to Pope Urban VIII and to the French ambassador to the Apostolic See, the count of Béthune. The nuncio's letter serves to introduce the king's letters but also to reiterate the nuncio's support for CM.
Date discussed 1628-09-05
Additional comments
a) Written at the camp at Chives, below La Rochelle, during the siege of that city;
b) The king's letters mentioned by the nuncio are not included in this SOCG volume. Coste published their texts based on copies found in Paris; the originals are missing;
c) The PF note on 57v consigns the matter to PF general of 5 September 1628, but Coppo thinks this might be a mistake, since CM was not discussed on 5 September, but on 25 September.
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 54r, 57v
Main text published in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: correspondance, entretiens, documents (Paris: 1920-25), vol. 13, doc. 70. The PF notes on 57v were published and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 44-45. For discrepancies between the original and the published texts (only one word in Coppo), see attached file.
1628-07-23
Addressed to [Francesco Ingoli]
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
12
Origin: Chives
Destination: Rome
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to [Ludovico Ludovisi], 1628-08-15, Chives
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Petitions for faculties
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to Cardinal Ludovisi, accompanying the second 1628 petition for the approval of CM. The nuncio reiterates his support for CM, and defers to Cardinal Ludovisi the decision about the form and content of the faculties requested by CM.
Date discussed 1628-09-25
Additional comments
Written at the camp at Chives, below La Rochelle, during the siege of that city.
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 59r, 65v
Main text in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: correspondance, entretiens, documents (Paris: 1920-25), vol. 13, doc. 71.; note published and analyzed in A. Coppo, "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 55-57. For discrepancies between the original and the published texts, see attached file.
1628-08-15
Addressed to [Ludovico Ludovisi]
See for the petition itself: APF SOCG 130 60r-63v (database item 14).
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
13
Origin: Chives
Destination: Rome
Letter from Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno to the PF secretary [Francesco Ingoli], 1628-08-17, Chives
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to PF Secretary Ingoli accompanying: a) a letter from the reigning queen (Anna of Austria) recommending CM to French Ambassador de Béthune; b) the second petition in 1628 for PF approval of CM; and c) the nuncio's own recommendation addressed to Cardinal Ludovisi. In this letter to Ingoli, the nuncio shortly mentions that the "missionaries" want "something more" and that he strongly recommends the matter to Ludovisi. The first part of the letter refers to a different matter (an Arabic typeset requested by the PF printing house).
Date discussed 1628-09-25
Additional comments
a) Written from "the camp below La Rochelle", probably Chives;
b) The queen's letter is missing.
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 66r-v, 73v
Main text and note published and analyzed in A. Coppo, "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 57-59.
1628-08-17
Addressed to [Francesco Ingoli]
Original; signed; Italian; written in the nuncio's own hand.
Italian
Letter
15
Origin: Chives
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1628-09-01, Rome
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, in Paris, informing him of the cardinals' decision to reject the (second) CM petition of that year, which had requested PF to confirm the establishment of CM as a congregation of missionaries.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 7, 119r-v
Published in full and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 51-53 (no discrepancies between the document and Coppo's transcript, except for a change from singular "la scrittura" to plural "le scritture"). English translation in Coste En. XIIIa, doc. 73a.
1628-09-01
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
38
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to the PF secretary [Francesco Ingoli], 1628-09-11, Chives
CM petitions
France (missions in)
The nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, lets Secretary Ingoli know that he would be disappointed if the matter of CM would not amount to a successful conclusion. He asks that PF at least send a "handful of articles" for these good priests, who otherwise would be too afflicted if they heard about the total rejection of their wish.
Date discussed 1628-10-17
Additional comments
a) Written from "the camp below La Rochelle", probably Chives;
b) PF note on 71v indicates that the nuncio's letter was brought to discussion in PF general congregation of 17 October 1628. Evidently the letter was received by Ingoli after the meeting of 25 September 1628, when the second petition of CM was discussed and rejected;
c) Coppo points to the familiar tone of the letter, which suggests that the relations between the nuncio and Ingoli were very cordial; this also explains the confidential suggestion to at least gather a "handful of articles" to apease the "good priests." Coppo assumes that, at the time when he wrote this letter, the nuncio had not yet received the letter from PF (dated 1 September, located in Lettere Volgare 7, f. 119r-v (database item 38)) which let him know about the cardinals' decision to reject the first petition of CM, which had been taken in the general meeting of 22 August 1628.
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 130, 68r-v, 71v
Main text and note published and analyzed in A. Coppo, "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 59-61. There is only one discrepancy between the original and the published text: "afflitti" (f. 68r) is transcribed by Coppo as "affetti" (p. 60).
1628-09-11
Addressed to [Francesco Ingoli]
Original; signed; Italian; written in the nuncio's own hand.
Italian
Letter
16
Origin: Chives
Destination: Rome
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1628-09-30, Rome
CM petitions
France (missions in)
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, in Paris, letting him know that the cardinals have already decided on the matter of CM, as already announced in the letter written on 1 September 1628.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 7, 136r-v
Fragment relevant to CM published and analyzed by A. Coppo in "Documenti inediti per la storia della Congregazione della Missione, presso l'archivio della S. C. 'De Propaganda Fide,''' Annali della Missione 79:3-4 (1972): 37-65, here 62-64 (no discrepancies between the document and Coppo's transcript, except for minor orthographic and punctuation changes). English translation in P. Coste, ed., Saint Vincent de Paul: Correspondence, Conferences, Documents (Brooklyn, NY: 1985-2010), vol. 13a, doc. 73c.
1628-09-30
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
39
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to [Ottavio Bandini], 1628-12-13, Paris
Cardinal rings
The nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, writes that the archbishop of Paris again claims that he has no obligation to pay the fee for the cardinal ring of late Cardinal de Retz (particularly since he had died before receiving the "capello" and before PF was even founded); and that he had always rejected similar requests from Mons. Cortino and Card. Spada; but now that he, the nuncio (Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno), has managed to make him promise to pay, he feels bound by that promise alone and by no other obligation. In the same conversation, related by the nuncio in this letter, the archbishop asked for a favor (from the pope, via the nuncio) regarding the cancelation of the obligation to pay the annate due from one abbey, called "Beata Maria de Pietate," which was left to his care after the death of Cardinal de Retz and which he had administered for six or seven years already, seeing as with that money he could pay the cardinal ring fee. The nuncio responded that the cardinal ring fee and annate were different issues and could not be combined. In his letter, however, the nuncio asks [Cardinal Bandini] to consider the archbishop's request nonetheless, because otherwise he fears that the cardinal ring fee issue will not be solved any time soon. A separate note containing the name and status of the abbey concerned is attached (on f. 6r).
Date discussed 1629-01-13
Additional comments
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 131, 5r-6r, 8v
1628-12-13
Addressed to [Ottavio Bandini]
See also: APF SOCG 129 & APF SOCG 130 passim; APF ACTA 4, 219 (database item 43).
Original; signed; Italian and Latin
Italian
Latin
Letter
17
Origin: Paris
Destination: unknown
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, 1629-02-08, Rome
Cardinal rings
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, in Paris about various matters; the last part refers to the cardinal ring issue. PF gives a negative response to the nuncio's suggestion (following the archbishop's request) that PF ask the pope to grant relief from the archbishop's obligation to pay the overdue annate for an abbey he had administered for several years, in return for his paying the cardinal ring fee. PF did not find it "convenient" to ask His Holiness for this favor as a way to convince the archbishop to pay the cardinal fee. PF instructs the nuncio to talk again with the archbishop about the matter and try to convince him to pay for the ring, and then that he (the nuncio) should write again to PF, who will try to see what the pope can do to "give him satisfaction," all the while reminding the archbishop that he should 'ease his conscience' and pay the overdue annate.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 8, 24v-25v
1629-02-08
Addressed to Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
40
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, to [Ottavio Bandini], 1629-06-22, Alès
Cardinal rings
The nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, writes [to Cardinal Bandini], among other things, that he continues to pursue the cardinal ring fee from the archbishop of Paris even while away from Paris; yet without any effect so far. The nuncio also reminds the cardinal about the archbishop's request to have "la speditione gratis" for an abbey of his, in exchange for paying the said cardinal ring fee, and in that respect he mentions the note (regarding the abbey) that he had attached to his letter of 13 December 1628.
Date discussed 1629-08-07
Additional comments
Written "from the camp in Ales."
Ottavio Bandini died a year later in Rome, and was also the dean of the college of cardinals. Therefore he was possibly in Rome.
Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno
APF SOCG 131, 34r-v, 41v
1629-06-22
Addressed to [Ottavio Bandini]
See also: APF SOCG 129 & APF SOCG 130 passim.
For the minutes of the PF meeting where this matter was discussed, see: APF ACTA 4, 219 (database item 43).
Original; signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
18
Origin: Alès
Destination: [Rome]
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Alessandro Bichi, 1633-10-08, Rome
CEC
France (missions in)
Letter from PF to the nuncio to France, Giovanni Francesco Guidi di Bagno, in Paris regarding the Confraternity of the Exaltation of the Saint Cross, established by Father "Giacinto da Parigi Cappucino." PF amended the statutes of the confraternity and is sending them to the nuncio for his opinion. After consultation with the nuncio the statutes ("constitutiones") will be inserted in the Apostolic Breve meant for the said Father. The statutes themselves were not filed in this volume.
Additional comments
PF
APF LETTERE 13, 113v-114
1633-10-08
Addressed to Alessandro Bichi
Contemp. copy; not signed; Italian
Italian
Letter
41
Origin: Rome
Destination: [France]
Letter from Father Hyacinth to PF [1633]
CEC
Letter from Father Hyacinth to PF in which he asks for "communication... of all the typesets and books in foreign languages [possessed by PF], and.. the matrixes of certain typesets, which do not exist in France, assuring that he will do the same with all the characters and books that are printed in France." The PF notes on 80v mention that the letter was given to Cardinal Onofrio [Antonio Barberini Sr.] in the PF meeting of 12 July 1633; further another notation reads: "to be done." For the original Italian of cited fragments see attached file.
Date discussed 1633-07-12
Additional comments
Father Hyacinth was probably in Rome at that time. See: APF SOCG 199, 81r-92v (database item 59).
Father Hyacinth
APF SOCG 199, 80r-v
[1633]
Addressed to PF
Original; undated; Italian
Italian
Letter
58
Origin: [Rome]
Destination: Rome
Letters from CEC to Father Hyacinth, 1633, Paris
CEC
Series of letters from members of CEC to Father Hyacinth, who was in Rome at that time, trying to get CEC approved by the pope. The letters were presented to Cardinal Honuphrius in PF general meeting of 12 July 1633. See attached file for an extended summary and the transcripts of three letters.
Date discussed 1633-07-12
Additional comments
All letters in the same hand; including signatures; the first letter is in Latin; the rest are in Italian.
Ives Vignal; Cordemoy; Corbin; Germani; Ragueneau; Mahaut
APF SOCG 199, 81r-92v
1633
Addressed to Father Hyacinth
Original; signed
Latin
Italian
Letter
59
Origin: Paris
Destination: Rome
Letter from Claude Bouthillier to PF, 1635-07, St-Germain-en-Laye
CEC
Conversion
France (missions in)
Letter containing a copy of King Louis XIII's approval of CEC and its right to make use of the pope's confirmation brief, which had been sent on 5 June 1634. The document itself is an Italian translation of a letter from the king’s councillor and secretary of state Claude Bouthillier, seemingly addressed to PF; it reports that the king, on 4 July 1634 in St Germain-en-Laye, approved "the establishment of a congregation under the name of the Exaltation of the Saint Cross, instituted for helping the conversion of heretics and for the assistance of the newly converted" (f. 94r; for the Italian version of this excerpt, see the attached transcription).
Additional comments
Written after in July 1635 (after the 4th).
Claude Bouthillier
APF SOCG 199, 94r-v
1635-07
Addressed to PF
Translated copy; signed
Italian
Letter
60
Origin: Germain-en-Laye
Destination: Rome